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    September 1, 2010
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what are you doing awake at this hour? pete? >> jim and charlotte write i woke up worrying about finding a job and then turned on "way too early" and find out if willie can find a job, there is hope for me. >> i'm paid in fig newtons so it's not that great of a job. >> delicious. mark writes do i pick
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vanderbilt? >> i think the line is five points. i'm not super optimistic about the season. maybe you take the wildcats. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ we have sent our young men and women to make enormous sacrifices in iraq and spent vast e sources abroad at a time of tight budgets at home. we perseveres because of a belief we share with the iraqi people, a belief out of the ashes of war, a new beginning could be born in this cradle of civilization. through this remarkable chapter and the history of the united states and iraq, we have met our responsibilities. now, it's time to turn the page. >> welcome to "morning joe." time to turn the page. that's the headline this morning. i'm willie geist. joe and mika have the day off today. >> what? >> that means i got to sit next to this meathead, mike barnicle. >> what?
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>> luckily, we have cut the barnicle with some chris jansing and mr. dan senor is with us and margaret carlson, bloomberg news political columnist and washington editor of the week, good to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> dan, you were in iraq within weeks of the invasion. >> vi day as you said to me earlier. i was underwhelmed by the speech. i thought it was lacking any context about where we go from here. i think the elephant in the room for many iraqis, and for many men and women in our military is will we go back? will we ever have to go back? how do we prevent ever going back? saying we're leaving and the end of it doesn't seem like sufficient. i think there are two scenarios for iraq. one is that it basically shrinks and becomes a glorified province of iran and gets swallowed up by
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iran or, two, we abandon the iraqis so much and they feel so alone that the only way they can defend themselves is they built an army of saddam proportions something of one former general said to me, a military that not only can play home games but can play away games, too. that is destabilizing for the region. i think unless we provide real security assurances for the iraqis like we did in south korea and we did for germany after world war ii i worry about how iraq shakes and i feel like the president didn't provide any of that context or vision last night. >> margaret, is it your hunch the 50,000 troops will be there longer at the end of the next year as planned? >> they will be called something else. they will be there. i think the president -- none of the prospects are good and the speech couldn't carry much more, you know, despair or dismay or just a lack of what did we get? is that all there is?
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i looked at the president. i watched it a second time online where, you know, you get the wooden movements. but the wooden movements were there when he was live. it just had not life to it because it is the most depressing thing. a war that was started either by a mistake or a lie, renders us impositivished. what was the figure? 700? >> 8 billion. >> $8 billion. and what do we have to show for it? saddam hussein is gone but the prospects going forward are not that good. >> three main goals. one was you want to get rid of saddam so that happened. you wanted to find and seize the weapons of mass destruction and you wanted to leave behind a stable government and that is really the devil is right now, isn't it? because where is that government? >> well, i actually, for all of
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the thumb-sucking going on about the state of this government, iraq is the only place just about in the arab muslim world today where shiites and sunnis are at each other's throats but doing it in the context of a political process. i'm not saying it's pretty or clean or ideal but you look at other countries where sectarian groups have been at each other's throats like in lebanon, it spirals out into full-out civil war. we have the kurdish and sunni leaders and shiite leaders trying to form a government. i can point to many emerging countries around the world you've had a similar trajectory and things have turned out pretty stable. it's never happened in the arab muslim world. >> part of the turning the page for the president last night, mike, was doing what so many people have asked him to do around this table is focus on jobs and economy. let's listen to the sound bite and then get your take. >> unfortunately, over the last decade, we have not done what is
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necessary to shore up the foundations of our own pros period of time. we spent a trillion dollars at war. often financed by borrowing from overseas. so, at this moment, ws as we wind down the war in iraq, we must tackle those challenges at home with as much energy and grit and a sense of common purpose as our men and women in uniform who have served abroad. >> dan, you raised two questions initially here. will we go back? will we have to go back? i think there are a lot of people who probably submit the answers to will we go back? no. will we have to go back? yes. but still no. >> look. it's all circumstances. what is the biggest threat to america and the region today? iran. are we better off with a government that is moderately allied with us whose security forces we have direct communications with sitting next door to iran or would very westbound better off with saddam
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hussein and his military next door working with iran. we talk about iran but not iraq. we talk about iraq and we never talk about iran. the fact that we have this alliance in the region is really the centerpiece, one of the center pieces of our strategy against iran. >> when it comes to iraq you just saw and heard the president of the united states in that clip thoroughly disengaged from this war. i mean, he has no investment. >> it's been a distraction for him. >> in this war. >> look. i will say this. if i were to say something positive about the speech, for an anti-war president, for a president who ran for office basically, the centerpiece of his campaign was this was the wrong war at the wrong time, let's get out and he would be the president that would get us out. for a president that that wa that committed to that, he said interesting things. at ft. bliss he said the iraqi people are better off today for our engagement and america is more secure.
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last night he even acknowledged that we removed a regime that had terrorized its people and contributed to the destabilization to the region. for a guy who was so committed against the war to talk like that, i actually was positively -- >> that is trying to make a silk purse out of a salzeer. >> talk about that. george bush got off. >> does the world need mi more rancor? no. despite what anybody is saying, how could he? let it be. >> turn the page is what he said. >> progressives last night and this morning, as focused on that line as anything else in the speech that feeling that the bushies, as they are called, got off easy last night and they wanted him to take a shot -- to take a shot. we are going to talk about that in a second. a full week after alaska's republican primary. senator murkowski has conceded to challenge joe miller and she
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was 1,600 votes behind after the election, officials counted absentee votes yesterday and she told workers in her campaign -- >> we know this has been a long way wooek. a terribly long week. we have counted and speculated and it has really been difficult. we know that we still have outstanding votes to count in this primary. but based on where we are right now, i don't see a scenario where the primary will turn out in my favor. >> now miller a little known attorney who was outspent by murkowski was supported by the tea party movement and former governor sarah palin. he faces democrat scott mcadams, a small town mayor in the general election. >> mike, you had one piece of analysis about this election. >> if we could get the clip back up of lisa murkowski. the woman on the right is why she lost the election. the woman is wearing one of
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those small spare tires from a ford escort! >> a northeastern e leastist! >> unbelievable. >> her own satellite dish! >> this is what the palin bare a cue dahs are reacting to. >> it's from the world famous zebra pizza in downtown anchorage. >> perhaps a good gust of wind will take it away. hurricane earl has weakened to category 3 storm as it heads towards the east coast. let's go upstairs to meteorologist bill karins for the late e- >> overnight, we had important changes for residents that live in new england especially. earl has weakened but the track is now looking to go even closer to new england than when you went to bed last night. a view of the storm. it's safely to the east of the bahamas and stay east and safely east of florida today. winds down to 125 miles per hour. a strong category 3 hurricane. let me show you that new frac
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path from the hurricane center. it's still expected to go right along the outer bank sometimes thursday night into early friday morning and then during the day friday, head up towards cape cod heading into the gulf of maine some time after midnight as a category 2 hurricane. it's still a powerful, strong, very similar to what happened in 1991 with hurricane bob that came into rhode island. let me show you a closer up view to show you how close it is. the black line is the official forecasts center point but the margin of error, the cone of uncertainty, is that yellow area which still does go down through areas of new england including boston and providence and portions of connecticut. we are not expecting this to move inland into north carolina but it could easily head up into new england. one reason the forecast has changed our computer models each line is a potential path of the center and areas on the right but a couple have moved up into
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new england. the blue line to the far left, we will wait and see if that trend continues but that is way left. the official forecast is close to that white line so if that trend to the left continues, that means stronger winds and more power outages and worst waves on the immediate coast. here is the wind field. the area of red is the hurricane force winds. friday at 2:00 a.m. on the outer bank and saturday morning, notice the hurricane force winds at this time are going to remain off the coast, with the exception of cape code, martha's vineyard and nantucket. that is the key to the forecast is where the hurricane force winds go and will tell us how much damage is done. if that trend to the west continues, watch out, rhode island, watch out eastern mass, and our friends in maine could have a handfalling hurricane possibly early saturday morning. we will continue to update the forecast. the big trend overnight the forecast looks worse for eastern new england. back to you. >> weather boy? >> yes. >> talk about covering yourself. you got like nine lines out there! it could go to cleveland, it
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could go to iceland. tell us. where is it going to go? >> it's going to long island? is it going to long island? >> no, long island is a brush on the weaker side of the storm. >> sorry, sorry. >> it's all about you! >> no, no, no, no! >> why don't you throw that hat on? >> your hamptons forecast. bill, thanks a lot. >> long island. >> suffolk county. >> island is a euphemism for the hamptons. the white house condemning the deadly shooting of four jewish settlers including a pregnant woman in the west bank and traveling in a car when unidentified gunman sprayed their car with bullets. it comes as president obama is set to open that two-day summit in washington today. brokering israeli/palestinian peace agreement.
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tomorrow, negotiations will formally be relaunched in a ceremony at the state department. these are the first direct talks in nearly two years. >> dan, americans tend to tune in and out of this story. where are we right now in the peace talk, such as it is? >> i often feel like watching this peace process is like watching a soap opera. you can check in and out and miss huge periods and nothing really changes. i think the big challenge is not the israeli/palestinian conflict but the interconflict. you have them coming to negotiate. i think they are serious and moderate and the faction they represent i think real progress in the west bank on the security side and the economic side and they are ready to go to work. on the other hand, you have hamas running the gaza strip which is still committed to israeli's destruction and hasn't amended its charter and at war with fa talk even if there is progress that they can deliver,
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the question is can they deliver the close to 2 million people that live in the gaza strip under hamas? >> and do they -- how do they feel about president obama as someone who can help broker this in a way others haven't? >> i think there is enthusiasm and confidence in president obama. >> coming up next on "morning joe," exclusive first look inside the politico playbook, including charlie crist last-minute fund-raising boost in florida and coming from an interesting source. don't miss the "morning joe" midterm exam. we put together an all-star panel. howard dean and harold ford junior and john heilemann to discuss primaries and predictions heading into november. ♪ interesting grooming.
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there's a show on television called "dancing with the stars." you know about the show? >> yeah. >> they bring people out and they dance them but, any way, they are announcing their new season. here are the contestants. david hasselhoff. the situation. >> the situation. >> michael bolton. >> yeah. >> and, tomorrow, they will name the stars. >> dave, tough. let's take a look at the morning papers. "the washington times," does bush deserve more credit? obama made pref mention of his predecessor last night but the end of military operations in
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iraq. >> dallas morning news. front page photo shows president obama visiting troops at ft. bliss saying he was odd by their sacrifice. >> anchorage daily news. a story we mentioned earlier. alaska senator lisa murkowski has conceded to the primary election to joe miller. murkowski did not endorse miller in owner concession speech. >> "usa today." can the nfl make going to the games compete with watching from home? national football league has had a slight drop in attendance for two straight years. while tv ratings are at their highest point in two decades. among the challenges the average cost to take a family of four to a game last year, was $413 and i have a big screen high-definition tv. >> i think it's better to sit home if you ask me. yesterday, on nbc's "today"
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robert gibbs said obama never doubted that an increase would improve the security situation. >> what is certainly not up for question is that president obama, then candidate obama, said that adding those 20,000 troops into iraq would, indeed, improve the security situation and it did. what was necessary for this moment to happen was a diplomatic surge, a change in the sunnis, the sunni awakening rather than fighting with al qaeda. i think there is no doubt the surge improved the security situation. but as this president said many times, the war in iraq was not going to be fought or won primarily or just militarily, that we had to see some political accommodation and that we had to do sectarian violence reduced because sunni and shia and kurd decided to live together and chart iraq's future together, not fighting each other. >> those comments yesterday
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morning from robert gibbs on "today" show seem to contradict president obama and vice president biden's stance three years ago. >> i am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. in fact, i think it will do the reverse. i think it takes pressure off the iraqis to arrive at the sort of political accommodation that every observer believes is the ultimate solution to the problems we face there. >> if he surges another 20, 30, whatever he is going to into baghdad, it will be a tragic mistake, in my view but as a practical matter, there is no way to say, mr. president, stop. >> margaret carlson, seems to be a contradiction there. >> not so instant replay is such a problem for politicians. you know, obama was running then. you know, i don't know why politicians do predict the future that way. i mean, it's the usual thing if you put in more troops you will
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get a cessation for a while of violence. but they were right in the end. it did not -- look at the government in iraq. you have a rosy picture of it. there isn't one. so the surge did not produce the political progress that everybody hoped for. >> but the sunnis, as robert gibbs said, the sunnis are involved in politics today and involved in the political process today and they were rejectionists in iraq and the sunni aweakening happens in part because we had the resources on the ground but the sunni leaders and our military in general petraeus said it had begun on its own but if we didn't provide the resources to stand with them and take on al qaeda it never would have succeeded so it sparked on its own but we were able to capitalize is. the whole surge experience was an amazing, very important lesson for america's war strategy. probably speaking counterinsurgency. it served as the basis for crying outloud for our war strategy in afghanistan. real lessons were learned from
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that and not an easy call. the views you heard from biden and obama were the consensus in w. at the time. the intelligence community was against the surge and president bush's state department and defense departments were against the surge and congress against the surge including many republicans. and the only two people for the surge were bush and petraeus. this is unheard of in the modern america foreign policy to go against every stakeholder and make a decision like this. it was because he did that president bush did that obama was able to give the speech he gave last night. >> it's proof positive that the campaign is far different than governing. you run for office is one thing. you get elected to office, someone comes in the first morning you're president-elect and says here is the overnight intelligence briefing. you look at it and go, whoa! >> i said what? >> yeah. >> let's turn to politico know and patrick gasp is with us from washington. good morning, patrick.
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>> good morning. >> tell me about charlie crist run be to be a florida senator as an independent. politico found out about a last-minute fund-raiser. interesting group. >> it's held october 7th and it's held by mark fell, not exactly a household name but his day job is interesting. he is the ceo of penthouse magazine. it's not like he is a stranger of politics. he has donate for george bush and nrve nrve and donated to a lot of democrats. when you look at the experience that jeff green had, the wealthy florida businessman during his election where he was tied, accurately or in terms of what meant with lindsay lohan and some sort of of other questionable florida dealings, it's interesting that crist is going through it. his opponent meek is seizing on it saying this sort of reflects that charlie crist is not
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consistent with his conservative values, the crist campaign declined to comment but all systems go, i think, for october 7th with the penthouse ceo. >> marco rubio has to be excited about this seizing on a nugget running from the right? >> right. obviously, charlie crist is in the middle of this race so he will take money from wherever he can but he doesn't have the sort of strong institutional backing that is going to be enjoyed by both meek and rubio. as a result, he is going to get it from both sides. i think you're going to see rubio and meek kind of go after crist because of the fact he doesn't have sort of the party support and the fact he sort of a man without a party right now. this is just one more opportunity to go after him on that issue. >> all right. penthouse injected into an already fascinating race. >> patrick, any plans for you and the 48 cats for labor day weekend? >> why? i tried to protect you, patrick. >> i had a feeling we wog would go there. i had a feeling we wouldn't with
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joe here but i'm still representing the felines. i have unbelievable love for them. >> that the least cool anything anyone has ever said, i'm representing the felines. >> it's better to go with the hand gesture. ahead, ari fleischer will be here with us and richard engel who has been reporting from iraq since the very beginning of the u.s. invasion there. developing this morning how unmanned predator drones are being used along the u.s./mexico border. that when we come back. ♪ ♪
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look at that, mike. >> yankees stadium. >> too loud, too loud! >> too cheering? >> i'm surprised that margaret said that picture of chris licht looked very sexy. >> look at that. he has like the purse lips. >> chris, we didn't know! >> chris, is that on a rug in your living room? >> it's a comedy store in l.a. a-rod? >> beautiful expression. hurricane earl heading toward the nation's east coast after causing power outages over the caribbean. the expected to approach the north carolina coast early friday morning but authorities are asking people on the barrier islands to evacuate. the u.s. mission in iraq is set to go a major rebranding one hour from now when biden and gates provide over a change of command ceremony in baghdad. marking the end of operation
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iraqi freedom. we will show you the ceremony live in the next hour. visiting american troops in ramadi today. gates said whether the fight was worth it for the united states. for the first time ever, unmanned predator aircraft will monitor the entire u.s./mexico border today to crack down on illegal immigration and drug trafficki trafficking. a third drone will join the two other today in what they day is critical persistence on the ground. turn to sports now. mike, your man, manny ramirez officially joined his new team the chicago white sox on yesterday and claimed off waivers from the los angeles dodgers. before the game yesterday, he had a big introductory press conference. welcome to chicago. i want to endear myself to the fans and teammates and he speaks english, being in the leagues
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almost 20 years but refused to answer in english yesterday, answering only through spanish through a interpreter. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: he wants to thank god for this opportunity. he has been a long time citizen. he has played. >> manny, we've heard you speak english. why aren't you speaking english now? [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: he feels comfortable in his language. he, obviously, understand but he wants to make sure. >> he just doesn't feel like talking to people. by the way, that is joey cora, former of the vanderbilt university interpreting. >> manny ramirez, they cut the number 9 into 1 in left field on fenway park on the night ted williams died and manny was out in left field. he came in between innings and asked why they cut a 6. that is just who he is. he's different. >> by the way, you have a book full of those kind of stories.
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>> oh, yeah, yeah. the white sox playing the indians last night. manny wearing number 99. he has a shot here to be the hero but a.j. pierzynski did the job for him hitting a three-run home run to right field. no need for manny to win the game. a.l. east. yankees looking to take the top spot in the division playing the a's. mark teixeira who is on fire hits a home run, three-run shot in the fourth inning. yankees win 9-3. what about the rays taking on toronto? top of the sixth inning and tampa jose bautista, his major league leading 43rd home run of the year in the post-steroid era will hit 50 home runs and incredible number. the blue jays crush the rays and that puts yankees in the top spot and the rays one game back and the red sox lost to the orioles last night. >> it's over. >> they are eight games behind
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the yankees. over? >> amazing they stayed in it as long as they have. >> they had no lineup. >> it's like us this morning. >> exactly! we're complete gutted! check out this play on the dodgers game last night. this is a great l.a. moment. foul ball. skoed scott podsednik makes a great diving catch into the stands. watch the guy he is competing for the ball, never gets off the cell phone call as he makes the effort. hold it. one more look at it. there he is. >> one of frank mccourt's lawyers. >> yes. how is that going? >> oh, yeah. they had a good day yesterday. >> nice job staying on the phone by that guy. just kind of an odd story. mike weiss has been suspended by "the washington post" after posting i guess an odd message on his twitter account. he tweeted on the nfl's suspension of ben roethlisberger, the steelers quarterback, he wrote this,
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roethlisberger will get five games i'm told, after the post report was picked up by other news outlets including the miami herald, wise resealed it was a hoax to make a shot about shoddy journalism. he apologize for his opportunity. >> i tried to showcase the bad journalism and give you ten reasons why i did this and what went wrong in the execution but none of it matters today. i made a horrendous mistake using my twitter account which identifies me as a washington post columnist. >> he is trying to make a point people pick things off twitter and they report it. >> they do! they do! but tweeting? do you get suspended for tweeting now? >> tweeting false information, apparently you do. people break things on twitter all the time now. >> they do? >> welcome to the new times. >> what is twitter? >> exactly. >> the term "new media." >> other than and indication of
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bad parenting what is tweeting? >> i take the side roads. >> he has heard good things, though. our favorite icelandic soccer club famous for their post-celebration. he scores the goal here and reels in the fish and here is the rambo move where he beats up all of his teammates. after scoring a goal on this one, there is the goal. players get together to congratulate each other and then something strange happens. three of them get together to form a toilet. >> huh? >> one of them is the back and one of them is the base and one of them is the seat. the guy who scores the goal comes in here and lift up the lid on the toilet. >> oh! >> oh! >> that's go. >> and have a seat. >> did you figure that out on your own or did you have to listen to the play-by-play? >> we watched it and we had our tape analyst dave. >> that is creative! >> right? >> yes. >> that is more creative than tweeting! >> leave it to icelandic soccer.
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♪ it's september 1st, if you can believe it. for all of you political junkies, just 62 days left until the midterm elections. we sat down with john heilemann and haired ford jr. and the author of owner moyer davids
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than goliaths." and former governor of vermont, howard dean for today's "morning joe" midterm exam. >> a lot of elections the past couple of weeks and a lot of polls showing democrats seemingly in trouble. >> yeah. >> what is your take-away, harold, of what has been going on and the impact on the midterm elections? >> antiincumbent fee very vong. democrats after the labor holiday will have to come back. i think with a forceful and assertive plan and they may not be able to implement it all to create jobs. >> where is the president? >> the president, i have faith it's hard to doubt him when the real money is on the table and the seats are on the table, the president always has been able to show up. he will be tested between now and november. i think republicans, to their credit, i don't believe that they have great ideas and great plans. however, they at least are putting forward a set of ideas that i think are not the right ones for the country. >> right. >> bum the question will be whether or not we, as democrats,
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are able to put forth a more compelling set of ideas to win over votes. >> we heard from luke russert last week. they are being disciplined now, john, not talking about mosques and not talking about other distractions. they are talking jobs, jobs, jobs. that is the winning message, isn't it? >> yes, it's true. i think where harold is wrong, i think, at this moment, the economic numbers have come out the past three weeks or so have been really bad for democratic party. the message is now sunk in. it's been growing over the months but it's really sunk in. the stimulus did not do what it has promised. the situation of the economy is as bad as barack obama thought it was going to be when he said if we don't pass the stimulus, this is how bad it will be. >> i mean, that's a general narrative in terms of how people are feeling. howard dean, for the democrats, what is the compelling message that the dems need to sort of dig in on when it comes to jobs, given the situation we're in? how can they do it? >> it's a two-part message and i
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think very doable. the president has done a great job in the last few weeks getting around the business if you want the country to go forward you. the car in "d" and if you want to go backwards, you put the car in "r." they know who got us into this. we do need to remind people what the republicans supposed program is to go back to what was going on for the a eight years that got us in the ditch in the first place. that is a very pom compelling mess pach the people want to see a fighter and the president has to make speeches like that all over the country the next nine weeks if we are going to win this. i do agree with harold. having a program matters a lot, but the republicans have done all right so far in this election without any program of any kind except to just say no. if we come in with a reasonable kind of program and the republicans refuse to pass it, which they will, i hope think that will help the cause you do not want to go back. this is not the time to go backwards. >> let's change topics and talk about whether the becomes hold
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on to the house. howard dean, you say democrats are going to hold on to the house and the senate. why? >> first of all, because our candidates are better than their candidates and that does matter. secondly, 39 is a big tall order and, yes, there are 48 people who won, mccain won and so forth. those people are human beings and some of them have really done their work and they have been out there for two years talking to everybody, and i think some of those folks are going to win because, remember, i said it before and i'll say it again, this is not necessarily an anti-democratic wave, it's an anti-incumbent wave. so far the republicans have taken the hit more son the democrats. >> you predict democrats hold on to the house and the senate. harold, what about you? >>? >> i think it's a narrow case for the democrats in the house and senate. either way a different washington. the president has to approach things differently and congress will focus right away regardless of what the makeup is -- >> you agree with the governor that the democrats hold on to the house and senate? >> i do.
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>> why? >> narrowly. >> wow. john in? >> democrats lose the house and i don't think it will be close. i think republicans could win 45 or 50 seats. i think the house is gone for the democrats. i think that the senate will be closer than people think. i think the democrats will hold the senate but they could lose eight or nine seats in the senate. >> willie, what is your thoughts right now? after labor day, the campaign season starts. >> one hand, they said bad time for incumbents but the democrats are going to hang on. i got to call you out for that. i think the democrats lose the house. >> right now, i'm at 35. i think republicans don't quite take over because i've got real concerns with nrcc. they have lost a lot of special elections they should have won. and if howard dean does what i suspect he is going to do next which is to run the democratic party again because he is talking like a dnc chair this
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morning. i think it's going to be close but there is not a good scenario for this white house right now. >> john heilemann and harold ford jr. and howard dean, thank you all very much. we will be right back. ♪ all around the block people will talk ♪ ♪ i want to give it all that i got ♪ ♪ i just don't want i don't want to waste it ♪ ♪
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willie, is it time? >> not you. >> that's jonathan capehart's moment. it does not belong to you. thank you, jonathan. time for a little "news you can't use." makeover. extreme makeover, oval office. let's get reviews. president while off on vacation had the oval office redone. this is the old one. this is the way the president bush had it. nothing wrong with that. a good-looking oval office. here is the new one. president obama put in new wallpaper and new paint in there and went for beige, tan colors and quotes from four former presidents and one from martin
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luther king. chris jansing has been at the front of the criticism of this new look. >> i am a design expert. you may not know this about me. it's getting decidedly mixed reviews. of all the things that have been said about this, my particular favorite is long island decorator to the stars elizabeth dow who says that the criticism, the wallpaper will look better to guests in the oval office who can better eyeball the brush strokes within the stripes. >> is that a critique? i don't know what it means. >> she said if you show up at a guy's apartment and it looked like this, you would like head for the door. >> right. >> you would say this guy is hopeless. >> i won't give bush credit on iraq but i'll give bush credit on having a better looking, a more diggived oval office. >> finally! the man gets his due on "morning joe"! >> the velvet couch says it all.
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>> it reminds me of the waiting room at us air at laguardia. looks very much the same. >> wow. tough reviews from our expert, our panel of design experts. >> i am an expert. >> glad we're focusing on the right things. a cliff last night from michael douglas he has cancer. we didn't know how serious it was. let's listen to michael douglas and dave last night. >> i finished my first week of radiation and chemo. and it's about an eight-week struggle. percentages are very good. i would hate to say, but, right now, looks like it's about 80%. >> it says a great deal to the hopeful outcome of this you're taking it heads-on. >> you have to. the radiation continues to burn your mouth and it becomes more difficult to swallow. >> i feel like i want to do
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something for you. can i do something for you? >> give me a hug! >> all right! >> douglas says he is 80% chance of making a complete recovery. he did say that his voice will probably change a little bit and it will be tough for him to swallow as he said. we wish him the best in his recovery. didn't realize it was that serious. stage iv throat cancer. let's turn to much more -- not news, things. do you watch "the housewives of new jersey"? this is last two year two people who have names of dan nell and teresa. what you want to do as a restaurant is flip the table and get your point and drive it home. last night a reunion show on bravo where we got danielle and teresa back in the same room, a piece brokered by andy cohen.
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you'll see him here mediating to bring peace to the real housewives. >> don't get in my face. >> do not! you [ bleep ] break up my family! you [ bleep ] you piece of [ bleep ] you [ bleep ]. you mother [ bleep ] you are a piece of garbage. >> if she moves her ass off that couch again, i'm leaving. >> i'm not going to let her get up. >> get her ass back here! i'll leave, too, then. >> listen to me. you can't get off the couch. >> believe me, i won't hit her. she's not worth it. >> i don't care. but do not get off the couch. >> do not get off the couch. talking to her like she is the family dog. >> like one of our staff meetings. >> they say america is going hell in the basket. >> i like the close-ups. can we see her stance? it's like fake wrestling, though. it's all made up.
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♪ this afternoon, i spoke to former president george w. bush. it's well known that he and i disagreed about the war from its outset. yet, no one can doubt president bush's support for our troops or his love of country and commitment to our security. >> president obama addressing the nation in prime time from the oval office last night. welcome to "morning joe." it's a little after 7:00 on the east coast. i'm willie geist. joe and mika have the day off. but we have an all-star panel assembled. mike barnicle is with us. not an all-star but a utility
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player. >> chris jansing is with us and richard engel and ari flishy. a resolution out of alaska and update on hurricane earl, looks like it's heading up the coast all week. we will get you into that. chris, let's start with the president last night. >> just half an hour, as a matter of fact, the vice president joe biden and defense secretary robert gates will preside over a military change of command ceremony in baghdad that will signal the formal end of american combat operations in iraq. it comes after president obama declared in a speech from the oval office last night that it was, quote, time to turn the page on the iraq war. i am announcing "iraqi operation freedom" is over' the iraqi people now have lead responsibility for the security of their country. this was my pledge to the
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american people as a candidate for this office. last february, i announced a plan that would bring our combat brigades out of iraq, while redoubling our efforts to strengthen iraq's security and support its government and people. that's what we've done. >> the president went on to stress that his administration's main focus is on restoring the economy. although he warned there was also a tough fight ahead in afghanistan. >> unfortunately, over the last decade, we have not done what is necessary to shore up the foundations of our own prosperity. we spent a trillion dollars at war. often financed by borrowing from overseas. so, at this moment, as we wind down the war in iraq, we must tackle those challenges at home with as much energy and grit and a sense of common purpose as our men and women in uniform who have served abroad. as was the case in iraq, we can't do for afghans what they
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must ultimately do for themselves. next august, we will begin a transition to afghan responsibility. the pace of our troop reductions will be determined by conditions on the ground. and our support for afghanistan will endure. but make no mistake, this transition will begin, because open-ended war serves neither our interests nor the afghan peoples. >> some of the president's republican critics lashed out before the address. john boehner took issue with obama's past opposition to the iraq troop surge. >> general petraeus embarked on the surge was our last chance to save iraq from a spiraling into an irreversible descent toward chaos. the cons consequences of failure then was as severe now as then. some fought tooth and nail to
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stop the surgery strategy and probably now claim credits for the results. >> president obama incredibly gracious last night and many feel much too grayus to your former boss, george w. bush. >> he was partially grayus. i think he couldn't be direct about the surge. i think it would have been an even more gray gracious to have done so. if he were to praise george bush, the surge, iraq, a disparaging base would be more disparaging. forget what he said or didn't say about george bush. i was in the oval office 7 1/2 years ago when president bush committed us to iraq. our goal was to go in, get rid of saddam. we thought weapons of mass destruction and win and get out. it was last night obama marked us getting out and well he said about the troops and the sacrifice they made. it is right for him to mark this occasion for america coming home from a war and what is right also is it was a divisive war
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and we should be lucky, fortunate it's over and people are coming home. >> despite the turning of the page last night, ari, you were in the oval office that day, do you have regrets about the way we the good into iraq and the way the war was prosecuted? >> the fundamental war we went to war was president bush and all before him told saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. when you are told as president that saddam hussein has weapons of mass destruction, president bush made the decision. the calamity of the horror is we went to war for a reason that turned out to be wrong. we had bad intelligence and that is the real lesson here is the importance of good intelligence. >> you said the war is over. unfortunately, ari, you know, it's not over for many, many
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people. i was reading this again last night. this is from an incredible book, "the good soldiers" from david fingle and follows one man and his unit in iraq in 2006. this is a passage about the colonel going to visit a soldier who served under him in san antonio at the burns unit. he decided to start with duncan crookston. he put on protective gown and boots and gloves and walked toward a 19-year-old soldier whose left leg and right leg was gone, right arm was gone, left lower arm was gone, ears were gone, nose was gone, and eyelids were gone and who was burned over what little remained of him. so the costs of that war are going to be with us for decades and for generations. one of the things that i was interested in last night, richard, in listening to the president's speech is that he sort of danced around the structure that is left in baghdad, which i am told, by
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many people who have been there, you've lived there for years, is that the structure, the governmental structure, the political structure of the iraqis is a joke. >> it's very poor. and it's not strong enough currently to lead the country. and i've said this to anyone who listened to me for a long time is that the fundamental political system that was created in iraq isn't strong enough to hold it together and that is the basic problem. right now, you have a situation that is further exacerbated because there is no government almost six months after the elections. there is a caretaker governor, maliki who is in place who shouldn't be in place. he didn't win the elections. he is just hanging on. there is an attempt to try and force agreement between maliki, the caretaker prime minister, and the other parties, particularly alawy. even let's say that gets resolved and a coalition government is somehow cobbled together. it's going to be very weak and
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that has been the problem with the iraqi political system since it was created. the parliamentary multiparty system that has been set up to rule iraq which is widely unpopular, by the way, iraqis don't like the political parties, they like having freedom of expression, they like the idea of determining their own political future, but they don't like the political system and political parties that were created. they lived under a strong man and i think going forward, they are going to welcome a more centralized authority. >> so what is the role of the 50,000 troops, the united states troops who remain in iraq? what is their role over the next year or perhaps longer? >> an insurance policy, basically. you speak to a lot of the troops area then supposedly there as trainers but then you talk to the commanders and they say the iraqis are pretty good at most of their basic skills. so they are not training them in kicking down doors or cleaning their rifles or any basic
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infantry skills. inside they are working on bigger think kind of projects, how armies operate, how armies conduct payroll, how armies organize command structures. frankly, a lot of the skills that don't transfer very well from first world countries to developing nations. so, in effect, they are going to be there as an insurance policy, in case things get really bad and they will do as much training, high level training as they can and as much as the iraqis are willing to accept. >> ari, the president seemed to indicate last night this is a turning of the page. in other words, if iraq blows up from two years from now, we are not going back to do anything about it. is that realistic? >> we will see. i think two looming deadlines that president obama has set. one is we begin the withdrawal from afghanistan in july of 2011 and the second is that we will be out of iraq entirely all 50,000 which includes 5,000 special forces, the tough guys who go into hot spots and the
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offense groups. we have left 5,000 behind in case. that is scheduled for december 2011. if either place blows up, barack obama will face very difficult decisions just as george bush did with the surge. what does he do? does america still leave? do we leave behind a worse iraq in case the government is not able to hold it together? we have so much at stake in both iraq and afghanistan. he keep coming back to when you look at america in the 20th century. one of the reasons a lasting peace in europe and asia is because of american influence and because the american people to let it last that stayed for decades in japan and south korea. one last point. osama bin laden gave an interview in 1998 to abc news in which he he said on air america is weak because america is not able to see through long wars. america does not want to stay in somalia and we will outlast
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america. this is being tested and we will find out what will happen in iraq and afghanistan. a great struggle of what the american people are prepared to accept and not prepared to accept. >> the end of the president's speech last night, the last five or six minutes is the cost of this one. not just the physical cost that i eluded to but the economic cost given the crunch in the economy today here. >> i need to make a point about that and what you said earlier. probably the most profound meeting i ever sat on the white house was a meeting with ely vizel and condy rice was there and president bush was there. a holocaust survivor, li said yes. if only listened to winston churchill, the holocaust would have been avoided. if people had listened to elie
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wiesel. >> saddam wasn't planning a holocaust. just now you're making the same comparison that boulevard osama bin laden is tied to iraq. osama bin laden wasn't tied to iraq. you just talked about how osama bin laden, we have to keep fighting in iraq and stay the course. >> no. i'm not saying tied to iraq. the point i was making about afghanistan and iraq is the american will to stay for long periods of time is what is being tested. i didn't say he was tied to iraq. >> why should be it tested in a war you say is based on intelligence? we're going to let osama bin laden win if we don't stay a long time in iraq and went there for bad intelligence. >> the question is if things go bad in iraq will we withdrawal the 50,000 remaining troops. my thought that is a future decision president obama has to make. if the conditions are terrible in both places and we withdrawal and they become even worse it's a fundamental decision president obama has to make. it's about america's will to stay or leave. >> i'm saying this whole
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association that is still out there in many people's minds that iraq was somehow associated with 9/11. >> you're scratching my point. i didn't say that and you're stretching my point. >> all right. it's what i heard. >> it's not what everybody else heard. >> we got -- we want to talk more about this in turning the page to afghanistan. i know you'll be spending a lot of time. but we have some politics to get to. chris? a fuel. a full week after alaska's primary, lisa murkowski has conceded to joe miller. she told her supporters she has proud of her campaign. >> we know this has been a long week. a terribly long week. we have counted and speculated and it has really been difficult. we know that we still have outstanding votes to count in this primary. but based on where we are right now, i don't see a scenario
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where the primary will turn out in my favor. >> now miller a little known attorney who was outspent by murkowski was supported by the tea party movement and former governor sarah palin. he faces democrat scott mcadams, a small town mayor in the november general elect pun. sarah palin tweeted do you believe in miracles? >> of course she did. she's a miracle! >> this is exactly like the u.s. hockey team beating the soviet union. hurricane earl is threatening to ruin vacation plans this weekend for countless of people over the holiday weekend. let's go to meteorologist bill karins who has the latest for us. >> before i get to the forecast and get interrupted can you ask mr. elderly if he has any special requests this time? >> he called him weather boy and he is hitting back on mike barnicle. >> any special requests, mike, this time?
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>> give me within 7,000 miles an occasion where the hurricane might go. >> no problem. the international date line versus the equator, somewhere in that vicinity. talk about hurricane earl that weakened over night. a powerful storm. category 3. the eye of the storm is well formed once again. has a strong intercore. winds about 125 miles per hour. the thing everyone on the east coast wants to avoid is the area of red. this circles the hurricane force winds and when you would knock down trees and power lines and have to do the infrastructure repair. tropical storm force winds much of the east coast get those during nor'easter any way so less damaging. a 49-foot wave near the center of the storm. the wave action will be increasing 12-foot waves off the florida coast now. eventually those will make their way on to the outer banks. here is the breakdown of the forecast. timing wise, thursday during the day, the weather will quickly go downhill on the outer banks. the storm looks to be close, if
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just offshore. the strongest side of a hurricane is the northeast quadrant, the upper ride. this path would take all of the strongest winds off the u.s. coast and then hit into nova scotia. if we get this shifting further west we bring the strongest winds, especially up there into the islands and cape cod. my biggest concern with this storm is what is going to happen in eastern new england. our computers have shifted a little bit. here is what mike was complaining about we have all of these different lines and all of our computers have different pns opinions on where the center of the storm will go. the white line is the average of all the computers and it's close to the hurricane center's forecast. these blue lines have shifted left wards to the west overnight and what has changed. something like this would be a worst case scenario hugging the coast going up through new england so hopefully that trend won't continue and get them back off the shore but this is what we're closely watching and 500-mile streed spread, mike, not 7,000. we will continue to give you
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updates as we go. >> are there any colors you left out of that rainbow? >> i pick the six that are most reliable. you run out of hues and saturations. >> bill, thank you for that informative report. >> this is the meteorologist view. >> richard engel, thank you. >> appreciate it. >> vice president biden and defense secretary gates are in iraq and bring you the change of command ceremony live when we come back and savannah guthrie has developing stories live from the white house and working the phone as we speak. you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks. ♪ i will keep the dream alive [ female announcer ] stay once...
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sure the sacrifices they made bear fruit and the fruit will ultimately be in a stable iraqi government, is able to stand on their own, and, in fact, is not a threat to its neighbors. >> vice president joe biden just moments ago on the "today" show. a live picture of the white house. joining us is nbc news political reporter savannah guthrie. we will check in live with the change of command ceremony in iraq in a few minutes. what can we expect to see? >> well, look. this is a moment that the white house certainly sought to commemorate. the military and these ceremonies are really momentous. they mean a lot to the troops on the ground. secretary robert gates has been in iraq answering questions. vice president biden is there.
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so i think the feeling is, look. these troops have really sacrificed over the past 7 1/2 years. this is a moment that deserves attention. >> savannah, is the white house, are they prepared for apparently a building crescendo of criticism from the left with regard to the president's discussion last night of president bush's role in iraq? and he was generous to the president. >> yeah. i think they wouldn't be surprised to get that criticism. i mean, how soon we forget in some ways that early on in the presidential campaign, iraq was the defining issue. i mean, that was the skurveling block for hillary clinton in her early primary days because she had voted yes for the war in iraq and president obama presented himself as the anti-war candidate. this was the issue behind the campaign and why a lot of people voted for president obama certainly in the early going. it was clear the white house is trying to strike a ballast night reminding everyone where the president initially stood on the
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war. at the same time, appearing presidential statesman like and not giving credit for the surge which a lot of critics on the right said he should have given president bush the surge on the troops for making this day possible. i think the white house wanted to convey something president obama said time and time again you can be for or against something in a political arena or each in matters of war and peace. it doesn't mean you have to be disagreeable and i think that was the tone the president thought to strike. >> savannah, many republicans i've spoken to, me included, felt that president obama's discuss of president bush was patronizing. as though we needed president obama to tell us that. what people are waiting for, some acknowledge as you said that the surge, obama was able to give the speech he gave last night because of the surge.
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it was a tough decision made by president bush and, oh, by the way, it served as a model for our strategy in afghanistan for president obama's strategy in afghanistan. was there ever a serious discussion in the white house about going a little bit farther in pointing to the success of this new straj that president bush had initiated? >> well, it's an interesting point. certainly one folks on the right make in particular, as you say. love the surge strategy so much they bought it for afghanistan with the exact same guy, general petraeus now presiding over it. this line from the white house has remained consistent for many months, probably going back to the campaign now. they really try to thread the needle on the surge. for whatever reason, they just will not, cannot bring themselves to say, you know, the surge worked but they walk right up to the line. of course, in classic obama fashion, they say, you know, the president always said there would be security gains from the surge. the issue, of course, is he said
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but we need a political resolution. of course, the fact that gets a little bit forgotten around here is part of the reason for the surge was to provide security gains in order to provide political space for the leaders to try to come to a settlement to have elections, so on and so forth. so this all kind of intermingled. and for whatever reason, the white house just does not want to go there in terms of saying we were wrong, the surge worked. i mean, i think you don't have to be a political genius to understand why they might come to that. but this was an occasion where the president tried to walk the line and didn't want to say i was wrong with the surge, the surge was great. president bush was right. because presumably he doesn't feel that way but he also wanted to convey a sense of graciousness and an understanding when it comes to mas of war and peace we are all americans. and i think that was the tone they were trying to set. >> savannah, i noticed two rhetorical things i want to ask you about. in the speech last night he talked about our coalition partners in iraq. i thought that was notable
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because democrats and president obama used to say everything was unilateral in iraq. the second -- this is a direct question to you -- is the president doesn't like to use the words victory when. he didn't say anything about winning in iraq and didn't say anything about winning in afghanistan. why do you think when he refers to things that are military which does talk about victory and winning, he can't bring himself to use those words? >> i imagine it's because managing expectations. i mean, nobody wants to say, in essence, mission accomplished, whether with a banner or whether with overt words. >> don't you think the military responds when they hear the commander in chief say your mission is to win and come home? >> no. >> i don't know. i do not pretend to be a military expert. i'm sure in some ways the military might say, yeah, great. that is the kind of red meat you want to hear. yeah, we did it and we were successful. on the other hand, i think the president feels like, look, we got to manage expectations and not overpromise. i do have to say, i asked robert
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gibbs kind of this very question yesterday on our show saying, you know, will the president say on tuesday night troops not only have you performed value yently and not only was your service honorable, it was worth it. gibbs said i don't think any commander in chief will look at the troops and say their sacrifice wasn't worth it but i do think this was a speech tried hard not to relitigate the war but, at the same time, trying to convey that message as the president did that the war had caused a lot of political divisions at home. i think he said it caused strain in relationships abroad. hose not backing off his initial position on the iraq war but, i think, trying to set a more conciliatory tone. >> ari, i'm familiar with many members of the american military. i have never heard any of them use the word win or victory in talking about either afghanistan or iraq. kill the bad guys, keep us safe,
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protect the population. i've never heard win. >> i've heard them talk about it. >> how do you define win? >> there is a difference between winning and we did our job and we did it well. >> going home. i think it's a rhetorical issue. the reason i raise it with president obama is a debate whether he looks at these wars as a side issue to be managed and that he wants to devote his attention to everything else. and it's part of the balancing act a president has to go through and i just think it's an interesting difference between how president bush approached issues and president obama. i'm not saying it's right or wrong. >> didn't you boss go in because he wanted to leave behind a stable and democratic government? in that is the case, then wouldn't that define a win and are we there? >> that's why i made the point earlier about a lot remains to be seen about the future of iraq and what is important now to use the word win is make sure we win the peace. now that we have withdrawn the combat forces with a few minor exceptions will we be able to succeed so a stable iraqi government does grow and the
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lives lost were not squandered and iraq doesn't return to its old was ways and have a different arab iraq in the middle east. >> i think what is missing or when win or victory what about future context? what is the plan going forward? there are two scenarios for iraq. an independent iraq either swallowed up by iran or the iranians feel so abandoned and so isolated they build a huge saddam like army which is as one general has said it will not only be able to play home games and play away games, too. not only to defend iraq but an offensive force in the region. we have to provide the iraqis with real security guarantees they don't need to do that, we will play some sort of role but to do that would conflict with obama's intense fidelity to this withdrawal schedule and indicating some sort of flexibility that if the context requires it, we will be back in some way and we will have
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resources on the ground i think would be reassuring to the iraqis and also sends an important message to our military. >> we have heard that to some extent from defense secretary gates if things blow up, we may have to go back in. savannah, thanks so much. do you know she works 5 hours a day? >> i know. and she is on her cell phone on tv and talking on her cell phone. >> got to be efficient, barnicle! >> cell phone wireless technology. barnicle is learning. >> cordless or a cell phone? >> it's cordless and a cell phone, barnicle. it's right out of the late '90s. >> give me a call mike said and call me on my land line. >> do you know these two guys are republicans? >> i've heard. >> how did this happen? >> it's a slow day on msnbc! >> for the island of manhattan this is a viewer spot. >> our heads are exploding right now. savannah, thanks. catch you on "the daily rundown" an hour and a half from now.
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a beautiful city of new york. what you can't see it's going to be about 105 degrees today and there will be those salmonella tainted eggs melting on the sidewalk. >> wow. >> georgia. good morning, everyone. welcome to "morning joe" as you're eating your egg sandwich this morning! >> good morning! >> good riddance. >> anything i can do to make sure they are paying attention. apparently they are. let's talk about vice president joe biden and defense secretary robert gates who will preside over that military change of command ceremony this morning. today's event means 50,000 remaining american troops in the country will shift their focus to training iraqi security forces. this morning on nbc's "today" biden talked about the challenges today ahead for u.s. forces. >> those 50,000 troops are well equipped, well protected, and they are in a position where they are a much, much safer than
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." it's 7:41 here on the east coast. willie geist, joe and mika have the day off today. joining us is contributing editor for "vanity fair"
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magazine, peter newcombe. the top 100 leaders of the information age has just come out. peter, great to see you this morning. let's have a countdown here appear do the top five. number five, amazon. >> jeffrey base bezos at number five. he got a start in books and amazon became the biggest e-tailer in the world. now he has returned to hs roots and save the book publishing business. >> is the kindle the driving factor behind his spot on the list this year? >> oh, yes. just released a new one that is a slim down. on the attack from apple now but everybody loves the kindle. >> you talk to book people, it's all online retailers. >> i think i have 70 books on the ipad downloaded on the kindle application. >> you're buying the titles at a lot cheaper price now, right?
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>> $9.99. >> yeah. >> number four, a guy who controls a lot of the media, rupert murdoch. >> we could talk about his cable news operation but we won't. >> wait a minute! >> we will talk about avitar. it contributed $500 million worth of earnings so they had a big year and the stock was up 20% this year. >> i don't think people believe how big murdoch's reach is. >> enormous. it's enormous. you figure he tweets? >> rupert murdoch? >> yeah. >> i think he is a little busy for tweeting. >> he has a large staff that tweets for him. >> you would block him anyway. >> you have the google guys at number three. >> obviously, they conquered search years ago and now spanning into everything else. the latest thing is android, their competitor with the iphone
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and critics love it. i think they will be a serious challenger to the iphone. >> i'm told the potential is huge if you get google tv, you can get anything you want. like the search engine itself, anything on tv. >> google is everywhere. in fact, they just announced yesterday, i believe, a new search engine for a blog. blog specific search. if you want a particular topic or person and scour the blogs, google will do that for you. >> the man google is chasing now has evolved their business, steve jobs and apple. number two. not number one. >> steve jobs. i think it was a tossup. earlier this year i figured jobs would have been number one. our panel of experts decided we would make him number two. the iphone sold about 700 million worth of units two years ago. this year, probably sell $20 billion worth of iphones and then there is ipad. >> they really have built, you
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could make an argument, the best brand at this point. you count on them and people will go get it. >> apple is the most valuable company in the world behind exxonmobil. >> it's unbelievable. number one, mr. mark zuckerberg. founder of facebook. >> they are only at a hundred or million a year or two ago. explosive growth and revenues should top a billion this year. the last estimate, the company was worth $25 billion or so and i'm sure it's probably double what the conservative estimates are right now. >> they had an issue with privacy problems earlier. >> the kids say they don't concern themselves with this. it's a grown-up problem. >> is facebook on the world wide web? >> yes, it's on the interweb, michael. >> you can even check out lady gaga there. only 23? >> lady gaga 23 on the list.
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>> barnicle i'm quoting him by siyllabl syllable. who is lady jaja? >> one of the gabor sisters. with us at the top of the hour, charlie cook and norah o'donnell. right back with a new edition of the "morning joe" summer book series. the latest challenges the united states has faced from fdr to george bush. that's next. ♪ ♪ well, i'm taking my time they go through every car and truck we make with a big fat red pencil. because they know a family's going to be inside. a teenager. a guy on the way to the job. the engineers of chevrolet. just another reason why we can offer a 5-year 100,000 mile powertrain warranty.
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you've got staying power. the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. >> mr. gornl chof teared down this wall. >> i can hear you. the rest of the world hears you. and the team -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. >> president obama about 19 1/2 months into his first term, but we want to know how he stacks up against the former presidents. for the "morning joe" book series, we sat down with nigel hamilton on his book "american
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caesark" in which he ranks presidents. >> why did you decide to write the book? the original reason was that it was in 2007 i was so angry with what was happening with the bush administration that i was suggested of doing a mock version of the famous 12 caesars. i wanted to show the span between greatness, fdr, and the succeeding presidents, truman and eisenhower and kennedy. and what i thought was the worst administration of the last 100 years. >> okay. we know what you think of george w. bush, i take it fdr you considered to be the best and the greatest in that sweep. where did other presidents fall,
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somebody like harry truman had 20% approval rating, but most experts say he was a near great president. >> well, i think many americans don't really realize how much the rest of the world looks to the united states. i mean, there's so much commotion here about what's going on and the midterm elections and they see the president in terms of his poll rating here. they don't see he's the leader of the free world, and harry truman was respected for the steps he turn in responding to north korean attacks. this was a great man. >> in our history, i cannot wait to hear what you wrote about dwight eisenhower. how was eisenhower, he played golf all the time. then we heard, oh, he's a dope.
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now americans are realizing that eight years of peace and prosperity just doesn't happen. that eisenhower, other than fdr, may have been the greatest president we've had in 60 years. >> there's a lot of truth in that, and there's a lot of parallel with president obama. here eisenhower is a man of pretty explosive temper in himself, but he learned to control it. when people said, well, you're a general, what do you know about politics? he said, hey, i've been in the u.s. army for 30 to 40 years. there's no place more political than the u.s. he kept the united states basically out of foreign wars. >> i wonder what you would think, and it is too early to tell how president obama will look, but are there any common oldties that standout to you in
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terms of ways he's leading compared to the worst and the best presidents you have studying so closely? >> well, i think he's doing, myself, a pretty remarkable job. all presidents tend to stumble in the first two years. it is a learning experience. how on earth can you ever quite prepare for the presidency, but i think he's very similar to jfk in that he has a wonderful tempterment. look at the mistakes jfk made and really rose to great heights over the cuban missile crisis. i think president obama is of that caliber. i really do. the worst ones are the ones who don't prepare for the highest office. >> who are they? >> well, i'm afraid george w. bush would fit into that category. and the popular governor of texas should have stayed there, basically. >> obama was prepared for the highest office and his administration as well.
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you would give them that grade? >> yes, when i was writing my clinton books i interviewed rahm emanuel, and i wasn't surprised obama picked them to lead his administration. >> who else was ill-prepared? >> the worst one, really, was jimmy carter. a wonderful man, a great idealist, and somebody called him the american gandhi. a man of great heart, but as incompetent as a united states president. that's so strange because he's a man trained in the military. he was trained on submarines and enormously intelligent. >> you hear from progressives frustration at the sainthood granted to ronald reagan recently over the last decade, 15 years or so, what's your accounting of the 1980s and his presidency? >> well, remember that this is a book about the american empire. this is a book about how the
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president becomes president and how he faces the world challenges as a great temper. it is a noble empire. and to watch how the presidents face the challenges of their time is tremendously illumina illuminating in terms of the challenges we face today. i think ronald reagan, he certainly emerges in the book far more -- i was raised and bred in europe where reagan was considered a cowboy, but when you read what he wrote to the british parliament, we are going to cause the soviet empire to collapse. there's no question about it. and we are going to do it not by fighting or economic means, we are going to prove capitalism works and that communism does not. that's really remarkable.
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>> nigel hamilton, thank you so much. the book once again is called "american caesars." thank you. we'll be right back. ♪ [ upbeat instrumental ] [ rattling ] [ gasps ] [ rattling ] [ laughing ] [ announcer ] close enough just isn't good enough. - if your car is in an accident, - [ laughing continues ] make sure it's repaired with the right replacement parts. travelers. take the scary out of life.
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the question about whether or not credit is deserved, who deserves the credit for this begins of the fundamental
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transition i don't think is worth arguing about. no doubt that the president and i both disagreed with the way in which the war has begun, how it was conducted, et cetera, but the truth of the matter is that by the end of the last administration the transition was in place, there was a political movement that was afoot. we kept on secretary gates, our present -- we kept on general pate just, we kept on a continuity to finish the job. >> vice president joe biden speaking on the "today" show this morning in the wake of the president's primetime address last night from the oval office. welcome back to "morning joe." it is just after 8:00 on the west coast. i'm willie geist. joe and mika have the day off today. mike barnacle is here today. that's the best thing i can say about you. also, chris jensing, ari flisher, and the political analyst for the national journal charlie cook is also here. and nbc's chief correspondent,
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norah o'donnell, good morning to you all. we are going to get to the president's speech in a moment. charlie, i want to ask you about the midterms you're writing today saying the calvary doesn't appear to be coming from the democrats. >> they needed so many things to happen. they needed unemployment to come down, attitudes towards health care reform to change, they needed to sort of seize control of the agenda and stabilize things in washington. none of those things have happened in times getting short. >> and let's ask you specifically about the race up in alaska where lisa murkowski finally conceded last night. a lot of people didn't see this coming. a lot of people didn't see joe miller coming as early as the night before. >> there were no warning signs. and nobody ever hit the panic button. we are hearing afterwards people within her campaign tried to kind of shake it loose, but the panic button never got it. willie, a funny story, i was walking -- sarah palin had an
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uninstrumental role in murkowsky's defeat. the night sarah palin got the nomination, i was walking through the lobby center in st. paul, and senator murkowski says, look, i want to tell you what a great choice sarah palin is and she'll do a great job for the ticket. she's really terrific. and i'm thinking, sarah palin beat your father. wow, you are taking one for the team big time now. and now palin does in the daughter. i thought, no good deed goes unpunished. >> she did tweet in addition to her other tweets, sarah palin, thank for your service, senator murkowski, now back to november. >> lisa murkowski said she won't run on a third party ticket, et cetera. there was a usa today gallop poll that says on seven to nine
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key issues, the americans trust the republicans more than democrats. terrorism, 39 republicans. job creation, 46 to 31. the democrats are having a bad september. >> the number mark halperin has been throwing around is 60 in the house. numbers like that, maybe not to 60 but close? >> when we do the race by race, we call it the first district of alabama and end up in wyoming, we are not quite to 40 yet. but when you start factoring in turnout when you talk about independents swinging over in the last it gallop poll by 17-point margins that favor republicans, that's how you get up into the 50s where 60 is not crazy. >> joe, here's the question. you indicated that the murkowski campaign didn't see this coming until it was too late. martha cokely running for ted kennedy's seat never saw scott brown coming until three or four days were left in the campaign.
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how did people in politics miss this volatile cocktail that's out there? >> i can explain alaska way easier than massachusetts where there's not a lot of polling, there's not -- the press corps is not as vigilant in massachusetts with the globe and the harold and all of that. so that if something is going to bite everybody on the rear end and surprise us, it can happen in alaska more than any other state of the union. but i think if you don't want to see something coming, then you don't see it coming. >> we've got some live pictures -- are these live pictures of the ceremony? they are live. vice president joe biden is there, also secretary gates is there handing over control to the iraqis. norah o'donnell in washington, we have been talking about the president's address last night looking to turn a page away from this iraq war.
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>> yeah, there's no doubt, and i think not only does the president want to turn the page, he wants to do that so he can begin a new chapter when it comes to talking about the economy here at home. i mean, this all goes to the democrats here in washington. they recognize their outlook is very, very bleak. the president wanted to turn the page and wanted to say this is a campaign promise i fulfilled and i think the white house has struggled the past six months. and not by their own design, but by all the news of the bp oil spill or what has happened overseas with the economy to try to stay on message and try to talk about jobs. the recovery summer, which we have been talking about, didn't turn out to be much of a recovery summer. so the white house is trying to struggle to pivot to talk about the issues that voters care about. jobs and the economy, that will come because congress now has to tackle the expiration of the tax cuts, so get ready for what will be a heated debate on that. >> norah, you talk about pivoting in the economy, charlie cook and i were just talking about apparently a huge
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republican year in november. is the white house prepared to deal with the government going forward with the republican house where all the money bills start, medicaid, social security, power of subpoena in the house with republicans, are they prepared for this? >> you know, i think that they are prepared but you can't anticipate what's going to go on. and i think one of the great fear factors is that republicans will have subpoena power. darrell isa is going to be head oaf oaf the oversight committee and will investigate, investigate, investigate. that can cause the white house a lot of problems because they have to turn over a lot of documents, be called to testify, it can create a lot of news, especially in the new 24/7 media culture. that's a problem. the white house for them has been an issue of focus, and i don't mean to put the blame on the white house team, but communicating a sense of focus just because of all the challenges that a white house
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has. so when you have a republican-led house investigating you, it makes it all the more difficult to try to communicate a message, especially on the economy and jobs. >> i want to look back on the live pictures here of the ceremony taking place in iraq because it is a remarkable moment from march 19th 2002, here we are september 1st, 2010, as a man who was there in the oval office when decisions were made, what are your thoughts this morning? >> i'm glad it is happening. america never wants to commit forces to war, and when we do, we want to win and go home. it is appropriate to be marked. the military deserves the high praise that the president gave in his speech last night. and we want them to come home. so i'm enjoying seeing this. it is the right thing for america. >> there's you in happen per happier times. >> i had a lot more hair. >> i wouldn't say a lot. as we wait for the ceremony to get started, we'll turn to hurricane earl. we have al roker of the "today" show standing by in north
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carolina. good morning, al. >> hey, good morning, joe. i would like to mention that "wake up with al" starts at 6:00 a.m. on the weather channel. >> never heard of it, al. >> i know. i know. just a little show that happens to be number two in the time slot. >> boom. just talk about the weather, al. >> i'm whacking you. >> he is down at his retirement home, isn't he? >> i am. the rocking chair is right over there. right now things are kind of light because it is gorgeous. i mean, this is a chamber of commerce day here at kill devil hills, north carolina. but lurking just offshore not too far is hurricane earl. right now 125-mile-per-hour winds. that's a category 3 storm. and i keep hearing people say, well, it has weakened. guess what, 125-mile-per-hour
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wind is no weak sister. that's a strong storm. it is 780 miles southeast of cape hatteras moving northwest at 16 miles per hour. we've got hurricane watches for much of the north carolina coast. we have a mandatory evacuation on oak cliff island here in the outer banks. and we are going to be watching this thing for the next couple of days. it won't really come right onshore or close to shore until some time thursday night, early friday morning. but the effects of this are going to be felt all along the north carolina shoreline. tropical force winds extend out 200 miles. hurricane force wind about 90 miles from the center of the storm. this will be a wide ranging storm. as you know, danielle last week caused big problems with rip currents. this thing is going to be much, much worse when it comes to that. there's going to be a lot of beach erosion, and that's if it stays offshore. if the trough that's about to come offshore doesn't make it in time. we'll see this thing come onshore and it will be a lot worse. but we are hoping that does not
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happen, joe. >> al, it is willie. joe has the day off. >> like you do, al. >> yes, like you do, apparently. >> checking out your facebook page there. >> are you reading the paper while you deliver the report, snal is that what's going on? >> i have my notes on my ipad and my maps, all my stuff is right there. >> he is reading it. >> i am reading mika's bog blog. it is fantastic. >> i'm going to e-mail you a picture of what willie looks like. >> al, we certainly hope the people along the outer banks are safe. after that comment about the ratings, there are people here who wouldn't mind seeing you blown up on the dunes without major injury, of course. al, fill us in a little bit about the way the storm is going to move up the coast and what the weather is going to look
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like moving up to the northeast this week. >> as it does, we are looking like friday morning here. and then it is going to pick up steam most likely and get caught up in the trough and move up along the coast. but we are looking at effects from north carolina all the way to new england. i mean, cape cod could get brushed with this thing. last time new england got hit with a major hurricane was 1991, hurricane bob. so we are going to be looking at beach erosion, dangerous, dangerous rip tides, rain, strong wind. so just -- the good news is it is a fast mover, so by saturday it will be out of here and the weather up and down the eastern seaboard will settle down. folks will enjoy the rest of their labor day weekend. so then we also have fiona to watch. that's now increased to 60-mile-per-hour wind. we don't think it is going to cause any problems for the eastern u.s. behind that there's another tropical wave most likely to become a depression in the next
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24 hours. 24 hours after that it could become gaston. we continue to watch this. we are now getting into the real heart of the hurricane season, guys. >> all right. sam champion reporting live for us from kill devil hills, north carolina. thank you so much. >> i am a good looking man. >> back to the sports page, al. thank you so much. we appreciate it. we want to go back in now to the ceremony taking place in iraq. chris, are we going to listen in here? this is the ceremony of the change of command underway now in baghdad. mike barnacle, this is an important moment. >> it is an important moment. the vice president of the united states with what is hopefully the fabric of an iraqi government to be put in place to govern the country that is in oppressive danger, it would appear. you have been through this and were with one president that began this war. what are you thinking as you see this picture? >> well, i think you have to
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hope for stability because what we are testing right now is whether an actual democracy can grow in the middle east. and it is a fractured democracy, but it is a democracy. this is an arab country, the first of its kind where they are making decisions by the people as opposed to kings. that's a profound implication for peace in the broader middle east. and that's the region where so many wars have started, so there's something big going on by the people. you have to hope for its success and hope for stability. >> and there is something tangible going on, with the change of command here where lieutenant roy austin is going to be the new commanding general there. what do you see as the major challenge for him? >> stability. making sure the iraqis can fight the war they have to fight. they still have logistic and transportation issues. we still have 5,000 special forces left behind in case there are hot spots. that's one risk for president
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obama. in case they need to get deployed with casualties, how will he deal with that after last night's speech? i hope it doesn't happen. >> charlie cook, it is kind of unnerving, i think, for some people to realize 4400-plus american soldiers are dead, and what we are witnessing here this morning, the transition to iraqi civilian government is just a blip on the political screen here at home. >> it is. and i think, you know, i'm not sure how much the public is making distinction between iraq and afghanistan. we are kind of shifting over and we all hope and pray that two years from now we are looking at this again coming from kabul. but it seemed like the president has about a year and we need to start seeing real progress in afghanistan. and if we don't start seeing concrete progress, i think you're going to have to start seeing the left and the howard deans of this world kick out of
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harness if we don't start seeing real progress out of afghanistan in a year or so. >> we'll take a quick break. when we come back, we'll listen to vice president joe biden. we'll be back with carlie charlie cook, chris jansing and mike barnacle. we could've gone a more traditional route... ... but it wouldn't have been nearly as memorable. ♪ time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze... my eyes water.
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military, it is an honor to be with you today. it is an honor to be joined by such a distinguished group of americans and iraqi commanders and civilian leaders. bound together, i might add, as a nation, we are now bound together as well. by years of shared struggle and significant sacrifice. in the predawn hours of march 20th, 2003, columns of troops set off to the marshlands from kuwait en route to baghdad. last week after 7 1/2 years that tested our meddle like no conflict in recent american history, the last of the combat units followed the same dusty highway out of iraq on their way
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home. as president obama declared in the oval office last night, the united states has now ended our combat mission in iraq. and iraqi troops are taking lead responsibility for their country's security. we've kept a promise, a promise made to the american people and to the people of iraq by drawing down our forces to roughly 50,000. and we are on track to remove all of our troops by the end of next year according to the agreement signed by president bush made with the iraqi government. operation iraqi freedom is over, but american engagement with iraq will continue with the mission that begins today. operation new dawn. as the name suggests, this ceremony not only marks the change of command, but the start of a different chapter in the
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relationship with iraq. our remaining troops, i might add, are combat ready if need be as in in our military and will advise and assist iraqi forces, support partnered counter terrorism operations and protect our military and civilian personnel as well as our infrastructure. we are ramping up our civilian and diplomatic events to strengthen iraqi sovereignty, stability and self-relicense at the very time we are drawing down combat forces. our goal is not just a physically secure iraq, but an economically prosperous and stable one as well. with our iraqi partners, our hope is to be able to enhance the ties of trade in commerce, increase our cultural and educational exchanges, open
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consulates all to ensure our engagement spans the breath and length of this country. our diplomats will support iraq's efforts to build strong ties with their neighbors and the wider world while working through the remaining obligations at the united nations. and here in baghdad, those efforts will be led by an outstanding ambassador, jim jeffrey, who may be new to this particular job, but is certainly not new to the region nor to this country. his knowledge and commitment run deep. they go back to his earlier service in the bush administration as the deputy national security adviser as well as at one point the dcm right here in baghdad. and he's backed by an extraordinary team of foreign service professionals and civilian experts moving to the
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forefront of our effort now. they have always been engaged, but now they are moving to the forefront. people like aaron eddy, a former peace corps volunteer in ecuador that now serves outside the wire as a public diplomacy officer on the reconstruction team. or mad din madeline chicco who became an american citizen after her family fled iraq three decades ago and is now choosing to return in 2008 to work in the ministry of justice here in iraq on property rights and rule of law. or dave buckner, a veteran of the police force who has trained law enforcement officers in kosovo, jordan and yemen and who now advises the iraqi interior ministry. along with our military and diplomats and civilians in iraq
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we have or they have born the lengthy deployments. like you in the military missing anniversaries, birthdays and births of children and the los of loved ones, this change of mission, to state the obvious, would never have been possible without the resolve and tremendous sacrifice and competence of our military. the finest of our iraqi friends will forgive us, the greatest force in the world, and the finest fighting force that ever has existed. and i do not believe that as hyperbole, and that's because we have been led by such a significant group of men and women over the last three decades. and i want to thank my friend, second tear gates, for his unique willingness to serve two presidents of different parties with differing views. a testimony to bob's patriotism,
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his commitment to service and his determination to see this effort through. he deserves your applause. excuse the personal references, they used to say in the senate, this is one good man. one good man. we have also been blessed by the wisdom and steady hand of admiral mike mull lynn and the leadership of general david petraeus, who i might add, is still serving this country in a way that is beyond what we should ask of anyone. i shouldn't joke about this, but i visited him down in florida, and before he headed off he said, just as i was finally getting to live like the air force you are asking me to move.
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it was a lovely place. and by the way, we owe his wife and his family as well. and also, by general jim maddus, who is taking his command. on his last day of command, i would like to especially thank general ray. this man is not only a warrior but a diplomat in the best american tradition. i want to thank him for his exceptional, i'm not exaggerating, his exceptional service for more than four years leading forces here and working closely with the iraqi political leaders. many of them sitting here today, and i think they would all acknowledge they have absolute complete faith and trust in this man. general, four years and five months is an extraordinary sacrifice for both you and your family, and i can only imagine, as a matter of fact, i know how
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joyous your homecoming will be and you richly deserve it. and by the way, you owe linda big, really, really big. and i would be remiss if i did not mention the sacrifices that the general has made, like many of you. i would be remiss if i did not recognize his son, captain tony, who made great sacrifices here in iraq and was awarded the purple heart and the bronze star with a v for valor. and now he works for the new york yankees, and i imagine you are going home to see a couple games, i imagine. i'm confident as well that general austin who is already serving valuably in iraq and beyond is going to continue this proud legacy. we are extremely fortunate to have you take command, general. and i look forward to working with you, and i know, again, you know many of the iraqi political
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leaders here and their commanding generals. and it is going to be a same seamless transition. our men and women were given a complicated task in iraq as many in history, and it taught us that war is the realm of uncertainty. troops steeped in military doctrine were asked to deal with challenges ranging from electricity to unemployment, currency exchange to trash collection. a high-speed invasion that toppled a tyrant became a grinding struggle against violent extremists. empty roads became death traps. suicide became a devastating weapon. we cry in split-second decisions by young american military men and women that can save the life of a comrade or shed the blood
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of innocent. and enemies like al qaeda in iraq waged unspeakable violence against iraqi sil ans in an attempt to foster hatred in communities that worshipped the exact same god. thus far, they have failed. the iraqi people to their great credit have rejected the ugly face of violence and cast their lot as well as their ballots for a better future. and so today, while the threat of tragic reality of further bloodshed remains, violence has reached the lowest point since 2003 when we arrived here, shortly after we arrived here. and a great deal of credit goes to iraqi security forces. more than 650,000 strong, including highly trained special operation forces who are increasingly ready to defend their fellow citizens.
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in recent months the iraqi military secured an election, killed or captured most of al qaeda in iraq and most of their leaders and made significant end roads against other terrorist groups. because of their competence, we have over the past year, and it has been over the past years that the general will tell you, and you all know, have been able to transfer thousands of square miles of territory in hundreds of bases to iraqi control. perhaps the most important development of all is that in the aftermath of a second national election, iraqi leaders are sitting down to settle their difference through negotiation and not through violence. another way of putting it, as my staff always kids me for saying, politics has broken out in iraq. the fact that no single party or coalition got anywhere near a clear majority will make forming a government and a parliamentary
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system difficult under any circumstances. after a decade of dictatorship it is still daunting here in iraq. unlike the last election, however, a caretaker providing basic services and preventing a dangerous power vacuum from erupting, but that is not a durable solution to the many challenges and significant opportunities iraq faces. the iraqi people voted in large numbers across communies, and if you don't mind, forgive me for saying so, they expect a government that reflects the result of the votes they cast. and that's going to require iraqi politicians to place the national interest above their own. a difficult thing in any country, including ours. it is not our place to tell the
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iraqis who should lead, but i strongly urge them to match the courage of their citizens shown by bringing this process to a close and forming a government. and i trust they will do so soon. since war is a human endeavour, its contours can never be full by drawn with numbers. but the sheer scope of our commitment to the iraqi people bears some reflection. more than a million american service members have deployed here since the conflict began. and i am in awe of their accomplishments and their significant sacrifices, including all of you sitting before me today. this is particularly true for more than 30,000 troops wounded in action and over 4,408 fallen angels who have made the ultimate sacrifice along with other members of the
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international coalition. it is no secret that this war has divided americans, but they have never shrunk from united support and the extraordinary united states military for extraordinary service of our troops. as president obama said last night, now is a time to put these differences behind us and come together to meet the many challenges that remain and that we face at home. today is also an important acknowledgment. it is important to acknowledge the magnitude, the magnitude of the iraqi losses in this conflict. tens of thousands of security forces and innocent civilians have been killed. many times that number has been wounded and displaced. i pray that all those scarred by this war in iraq come to know the bomb of lasting peace.
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and i believe, i truly believe their darkest days are now behind them. they have such a great opportunity as they step up to it. after all the iraqis endured, we understand their deeply felt desire to control their own lives, determine their own fate and maintain their own security. that's why we kept president bush's commitment to withdraw our forces from iraqi cities last summer. why president obama has now kept his promise made one month after he took office to end our combat mission and draw down to a force of 50,000. and why we will make good on our agreement with the iraqis to remove all our forces by the end of next year. we gather today in a capital that once boasted the planet's greatest assemblage of universities, hospitals and
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museums. a cultural beacon whose centerpiece was a grand intellectual bizarre noun as the house of wisdom. in modern times iraq has faced hardships most nations cannot fathom, but it is blessed with vast national bounty, natural resources and the wisdom of the ages lives on in the people here in iraq, educated, adaptive and above all resilient people. this inevitable store of natural wealth are the tools that can now forge a secure an prosperous future for the people of iraq. and god willing, you're on the path to fulfill that promise again. we are proud to be your partner. thank you all. may god bless you all. and may god protect our troops. >> vice president joe biden
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speaking at a change of command ceremony in baghdad. he said the united states on track to remove its troops at the end of next year, 2011. also saying the darkest days are now behind iraq. nor norah o'donnell, pretty powerful visuals from the obama administration over the last two weeks. richard engle was passing through the kuwait border there with the troops, and now vice president biden turning over the country essentially to the iraqi people. >> no doubt, the vice president has been the point man for the administration on iraq. i believe this is his fifth trip as vice president. some 14 visits in all that he has made to iraq, but i thought what was most noteworthy was the vice president was there, not only to sort of preside over the transition ceremony, but he was also there to try and help bring together this coalition government that does not yet exist. there's been, of course, the political stale meat, the deadlock for six months since the election because the elections were so close. and you noticed the vice
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president there at the end saying we are happy to be your partner, but there isn't yet a partner because there isn't a government yet. that's one of the key concerns. so i think, too, the vice president there is also to cheerlead a little bit and work behind the scenes. he trusts that there will be a government soon. and that really is key. >> all right. norah o'donnell, thank you so much. coming up next, erin burnett's top three business headlines. financing their fleet, sharing our expertise, and working with people who are changing the face of business in america. after 25 years in the aviation business, i kind of feel like if you're not having fun at what you do, then you've got the wrong job. my landing was better than yours. no, it wasn't. yes, it was. was not. yes, it was. what do you think? take one of the big ones out? nah. it says you like soft rock. it says you like cool jams. i do like cool jams. it says you're not real. [ growls ] sorry.
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before the bell with cnbc's erin burnett. >> hello, guys. interesting to hear vice president joe biden there. number one, jobs. we have how many people who were hired or fired by companies. we saw 10,000 jobs lost in the month of august. expectations were for hiring, so that was a disappointment and a preview for the big jobs number coming out on friday. what is moving the market this morning is good news out of china. there's one other economy in the world when i look at the futures board to move the market like this other than ours, and that is china. stronger than expected manufacturing data causing essentially stocks here to surge. it is pretty amazing this morning. no other headline in the world could do that other than a headline out of america or china. car sales in china up 59.. they are on track to sell 69,000 new cars today. that comes out today when we get car numbers in the united states where we are selling 11.6 million cars. we are not the biggest car
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market. in fact, we'll have the worst august car sales in the united states since august of 1982. it could be grim on the car news. last story, get this report, it is pretty interesting called ceo pay and the great recession. the 17th annual compensation survey by the institute for policy studies. the takeaway is during the financial crisis, the 50 companies that laid off the most people, the ceos of the company were paid on average 42% more than the average ceo in the s&p 500. it is a pretty interesting survey. take a look at it. there's some pretty shocking data in there. that's it. >> what name in there shocked you the most? >> well, you know, there were a few, but how about this one. bill weld of johnson and johnson, three times more than the average ceo at a time when he fired 9,000 people. >> that's a lot of band-aids. coming up next, charlie cook's next predictions for the
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all right. time for some rapid fire with charlie cook. what are the three things you're going to be focusing in on more the midterms. >> well, i think the house is how big the number is. it is going over the 39 that republicans need. it could be in the 50s or hit a 60. the senate, i think republicans have 41 now, they will get at least to 49. the question is will they get 50 to 51. there's a one in three chance they will win the senate. when congress comes back on september 139, you will see a circular firing squad forming among democrats. there's going to be a lot of the blame game to start as soon as they get back in town. it will be ugly. >> and if republicans take the house but the democrats keep the senate, it has never happened in the history of our country that we've had a republican house, democrat house, democrat senate with a democratic president. >> it will be fun to watch this fall. still ahead, an honest memoir about sex. one woman's decision to go
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the iraq war,the midterm elections, hurricane earl, we've covered it all this morning. and now this. could you go for a year without sex? >> been there, done that. >> been there, done that, says mike barnicle. we sat down with someone who did just that by choice. journalist hepsubah anderson.
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>> okay, first of all, what made you decide to do this? what was the concept? >> well, the concept was not to write a book, that came in at the end of the year. i was about to turn 30. i was here in new york city. and i happened to glimpse my old college boyfriend escorting his new fiance to buy an engagement ring. this was after eight years of living in the same city and seeing him once back in london. this had to mean something, i figured. it got me thinking about the relationships that followed, but he was my first boyfriend and the last man to say i love you. and it brought into focus all the emotional frustration i've been feeling during my 20s. and this seemed to be sort of a disconnect between what i wanted from sex and what the men in my life were prepared to give.
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most were not one-night stands but it was a series of a little too short of very emotional relationships. >> i want to know what the lesson here is, because it seems to me that you were processing a real disconnect between yourself and the men you've met along the way. >> yes. i think the big lesson, i learned so much about myself during that year. i learned that i've become kind of emotionally guarded and dating does that to you and feelings that nobody wants to really talk about. and we are terrified of seeming needy. and i think, you know, also as women we saddle ourselves with this misled notion that equality for women is to go out and pay -- we perceive men to, but they are also trapped in that sort of sexual stereotype. >> there's the old addage that women have sex to talk, and men talk to have sex.
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and men do seem more to exercise it and women are looking for the emotional bond. so there's something biological in how we guard recreational sex, the need to settle down and the need to mate. >> but men are different than women and they need to have that conversation. and that seems to be exactly what you're talking about. >> if you are someone who goes into a relationship in your, that conversation in how you have it is going to change. and you're right, the kids nuke a sexual relationship for a short period of time. and you have to rediscover it later in a marriage. but it is an ongoing conversation and your emotional needs change and your sexual needs change. >> what concerns me is, roger and i were talking about this, no, we were talking about this, but it is unfortunately -- sex, and i've noticed because i have kids in their 20s and i have younger kids, i've noticed a lot more over time a lot more then when i was growing up is sex,
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especially for young girls, it scares the hell out of me, for middle schoolgirls, sex is like a handshake. the things i heard when my kids were going through middle school in the late 1990s for girls, sex became as impersonal as a handshake. that's scary as hell. >> we use it as a shortcut to intimacy because we forget to build up to intimacy. there are all sorts of issues to shaping that, and technology is one of them. at one point i talked to a male dating expert who says text messages are great because they eliminate any kind of personal involvement and keep women on edge. which is just chilling, isn't it? >> the things that i heard seventh and eighth grade girls doing and having bracelets saying i performed this. they don't understand the long term -- i'm going to be serious
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here, the long term emotional impact. and what you are getting to right here, not stripping off clothes, but stripping down emotional layers that make it impossible for you to connect with a man or a woman or anybody down the road in an intimate way. >> yes, because i don't think it does men any favors either. i have spoke on the a lot of incredibly dissatisfied early 40-something male bachelors who have been able to have too much of something and they don't really know about how to go about in an enduring relationship. >> is that what surprised you about the male reaction when being on the book tour? >> yeah, men were intrigued by it. funny enough, there was a little story in an ial an women's magazi magazine, a facebook friend request from an italian man. i guess they want a year off every now and then. >> thank you so much.
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fascinating conversation for sure. the book is "chastened." thank you very much. good luck. "morning joe" will be right back. [ animals calling ] ♪ [ pop ]
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all right. time to tellyou what we learned today. mike barnicle? >> in a stunning development i learned for the first time in the history of

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